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critique required

Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 8:59 pm
by julie
Hi
i have been working on this image on and off for a while
i think it has 'something' but I am not sure what it is
I have converted to black and white

This was taken at a moments notice. i wanted to remain invisible so it was pretty much camera to the eye and shoot.
My questions are
is it too contrasty generally
should I reduce the contrast/sharpening on the background buildings as they are very 'crunchy' to start with.
would that separate the boys? Any other ways I could make the boys stand out a little?
should I lighten the ball a bit?

please any critique will be welcomed. I have been looking at this too long.

Julie

Re: critique required

Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 11:14 pm
by Ganna
Julie, please correct me if I'm off. I think that by darkening the background a bit(perhaps not the door, but the wall) and lightening the children and their ball a tad would make them stand out more. I like good contrast in monochrome images, so I don't think this is too contrasty

Re: critique required

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 6:34 am
by julie
too much?

Julie

Re: critique required

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 7:33 am
by artmar
I think the contrast is better in the second version.
But I prefer it with the vertical perspective corrected. Much more presence to the building.
What I've done may be too much, but just to give an idea.

Re: critique required

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 7:40 am
by julie
Yes. I can see it really changes it.
And for the better!
Did you use the method where you pull the corners.
I can't remember what it's called
It's late here, I should go to sleep

Julie

Re: critique required

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 10:26 am
by artmar
I used the "Lens correction" filter in PS.

Filter -> Lens correction -> Custom -> Transform -> Vertical Perspective (to the left).

Art

Re: critique required

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 5:36 pm
by gregmeister_admin
Julie,
Can you post a low res version of the color image so I can see what colors we have to work with in the b&W conversion? there may be a way to separate the kids from the wall if the colors are "right"

Greg

Re: critique required

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 5:59 pm
by julie
coloured version as requested. Pretty much nothing done except a little adjustment of shadow and highlights in ACR

Re: critique required

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:06 am
by gregmeister_admin
Julie,
how did you do the conversion?

Greg

Re: critique required

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:10 am
by julie
Hi
The black and white conversion was done with topaz. But a lot more was done than that. I also did one in acr but it looked flat. I need to try split channels but will have to find the directions again in 201.
After the basic conversion I did a lot of passes in cm adjusting contrast in specific areas

Julie